Thread:Pluto2/@comment-1272640-20170907013828/@comment-1272640-20170907024448

"For those pushing original research"

Something you've never been able to actually define.

Originally, census records and WOP Group posts were allowed...you said they could be cited as evidence for articles.

Then you changed the rules, saying that, no, these aren't sufficient anymore. In the process, you created ambiguity. What's allowed?

Then you say that censuses are allowed if they corroborate the claim.

Then what's the point of allowing them?! Either they're reliable no matter what, or they're not reliable at all. You can't just cherrypick them to support something. You ruined the Mary Royster article...why? If you actually looked at the censuses, they literally support 1875. That's what documents say. It's not original research if there's evidence to back up the assertions.

And this isn't an "encyclopedia" in the sense you're claiming it to be. It's hosted on a website that is literally called "Fandom". You're trying to make it The Official GRG Encyclopedia™. And you've let this power go to your head.

Everyone is lesser than you, and you're being generous by talking to them? That's called being so utterly full of yourself that no one wants to be around you.

You've slowly driven multiple correspondents AWAY from the GRG...you try to lobby bizarre agendas. If Harumi Nakamura is named in the same directory as Takatoshi Odate, and Odate's name is changed from "Anonymous" to " Takatoshi Odate", the same applies to Harumi Nakamura. Just because one person died more recently than the other doesn't mean they get to stay anonymous yet the same source naming THEM is acceptable for changing the name of another supercentenarian. That's not how things work.

For that matter, how can you possibly take the MHLW at their word? Half the time, they probably don't actually investigate the claims. Do you seriously think Sogen Kato mummified himself the day officials went to visit him?

Do you really think the earliest document dating back to only 1938 is sufficient evidence that Misao Okawa was 117?

Do you really think that Japan, a culture founded on honor, WOULDN'T DO ITS BEST TO COVER UP ANY POTENTIAL EMBARRASSMENTS? Shigechiyo Izumi is proof that they can and will do just that.

I can't take them at their word when they have a track record of trying to conceal cases being debunked, and when it's abundantly clear that the MHLW isn't doing any checking at all.

Age validation standards are universal. If we accept literally every Japanese claim since 1870 prima facie, we must likewise accept every American claim since 1900 prima facie. OH WAIT, THERE'S POTENTIAL FRAUD. Longevity fraud is universal, and we can't accept literally thousands of claims at face value, because we have no idea how many are true and how many are false.

And the idea that you should not validate anyone living below 111.75 is just wrong. Supercentenarians would prefer to be validated while living, and not once they're dead. Deliberately refusing to validate based on age is completely wrong.

You are arrogant, self-centered, and think way too highly of yourself.

Respect has to be EARNED. Just because people give you titles doesn't mean you've earned anything, and respect can be lost. Remember when Louis Epstein was respected? Then he faded away because he refused to keep up. He made himself obsolete. And his remarks about issues snowballed and people realized that he wasn't worthy of the respect being given. The same applies to you. You HAD my respect (and that of many others). Then I realized you were an authoritarian jerk who wants to control every aspect of longevity discussion.

Goodbye, Bob.

No regards, Okiku Saji

P.S. I tried to get Wikia Staff to strip you of your powers...they gave me a non-answer and told me to "talk it out" with you. But there's no reasoning with you.